Crickets On Your Job Search? Do THIS Instead.

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Crickets On Your Job Search? Do THIS Instead.

HR Heretics

Mar 06, 2025

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Nolan and Kelli discuss tech job search strategies, emphasizing proactive networking over mass applications., and recommend targeted outreach with concise value propositions that highlight business impact. They stress building relationships both inside and outside your company, maintaining professional connections, and adapting to a job market that increasingly demands quantifiable contributions.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:13) Struggling to Find a New Role

(01:02) Principle #1: Avoid Applying to Jobs

(01:46) The "Rolling Process" Approach

(02:34) Current Job Market Reality Check

(03:28) Value Proposition Design

(03:50) Targeted Application Strategy

(04:13) Cold Outreach Framework

(05:06) Why Cold Outreach Works

(06:15) Two Categories of Job Hunting

(06:41) Maximizing Your Current Role

(07:45) Sponsor: Metaview

(09:39) External Network Building

(10:41) When You Need a Job Urgently

(11:28) Research-Based Approach

(12:13) LinkedIn Networking Strategy

(12:52) The Best Time to Look for a Job

(13:39) Quantifying Business Value

(14:30) Cold Outreach Framework

(16:00) Referrals and Resource Lists

(16:42) The Importance of Preparation

(17:11) Current Job Market Assessment

(18:07) Wrap

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“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies

After a decade+ of “blitz-scaling” companies, HR, talent, and People leaders now face an uncertain economy that has already seen big booms and busts. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact?

Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners – Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors.

This show is for those who are ready to ditch conventional wisdom and figure out from first principles what works for their culture, business model, and industry, with the goal of building a resilient and enduring company. You’ll come away with real guidance for seeing around corners, building enduring companies, and carving out an impactful career – plus a newly-honed bullshit detector.

Topics frequently touched on in this season include: building high performing cultures, compensation negotiation, performance reviews, company design, equity, M&As, recruiting the best talent, and how to manage your own psychology as a people leader.

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