Agentic AI: Hype vs Reality? with Siadhal Magos of Metaview

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Agentic AI: Hype vs Reality? with Siadhal Magos of Metaview

HR Heretics

Feb 28, 2025

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In this installment of AI Corner, Siadhal Magos, the CEO of Metaview, and Nolan Church discuss 'agentic AI' in a practical and relevant way for HR pros. They dig into what agentic AI is today vs future expectations and debate current tool limitations. They also share their current AI tool stack, workflows, and their overall approach to viewing AI like a 'junior colleague'.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:55) What is Agentic AI?

(02:05) AI Decision-Making Autonomy

(03:16) Examples of Traditional AI Workflows

(04:20) Behind the AI "Magic"

(05:06) Experience with ChatGPT Operator

(07:13) Context and Expertise Gap

(10:35) Early Innings of AI Development

(11:39) Improving AI Interactions

(13:19) Garbage In, Garbage Out

(13:27) Sponsor: Metaview

(16:44) The Shift to Agentic AI

(18:23) AI Thinking and Collaboration

(19:25) Human-Machine Adaptation

(20:27) Machines Becoming More Human-Like

(22:23) Daily AI Stack

(25:08) Wrap

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