When Breaking Everything Fixes Everything with Jared Fliesler

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When Breaking Everything Fixes Everything with Jared Fliesler

HR Heretics

Oct 24, 2024

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In this episode, Nolan and Kelli talks with Silicon Valley prodigy turned seasoned operator and former Google director Jared Fliesler.

From revolutionizing feedback systems to challenging the "founder mode" hype, Jared shares raw insights from his journey as Silicon Valley's youngest executive.

But that's just the beginning – he also unveils the psychological trap keeping high achievers perpetually unfulfilled (hint: it's not what you think), and shares the counterintuitive secret to genuine satisfaction.

Whether you're a startup founder, HR leader, or ambitious professional, this episode will fundamentally change how you think about performance, leadership, and success. Warning: your perspective on workplace traditions will never be the same.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:13) Intro

(00:59) Radical Performance Review Process

(06:18) Getting the CEO on Board

(08:48) People Operations as Core Business

(10:20) The Move Away from Performance Reviews

(10:50) Feedback Systems for Introverts

(12:07) The Semantics of Performance Reviews

(12:48) Experimenting with Performance Reviews

(13:52) Founder Mode

(19:18) Sponsor: Metaview

(20:10) Copy-pasting Culture Decks

(20:54) Revolt Against Traditional Management

(21:46) Fandiger Mounder

(22:16) Treating People Like Wrists

(24:14) Being the Youngest Person in the Room

(27:37) The Importance of EQ

(28:42) Layoff Experience

(30:35) The Ego Trap

(32:38) Founder Coaching

(33:03) Jared's Coaching Practice

(37:21) Hiring and Firing in Hyper Growth

(37:54) Hire With Speed, Fire with Respect

(42:00) The Cost of PIPs

(43:04) The Importance of Respect

(43:52) The Hedonic Treadmill

(48:06) Gratitude as the Antidote

(48:22) Wrap

Discussion about this podcast

“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies

After a decade+ of “blitz-scaling” companies, HR, talent, and People leaders now face an uncertain economy that has already seen big booms and busts. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact?

Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners – Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors.

This show is for those who are ready to ditch conventional wisdom and figure out from first principles what works for their culture, business model, and industry, with the goal of building a resilient and enduring company. You’ll come away with real guidance for seeing around corners, building enduring companies, and carving out an impactful career – plus a newly-honed bullshit detector.

Topics frequently touched on in this season include: building high performing cultures, compensation negotiation, performance reviews, company design, equity, M&As, recruiting the best talent, and how to manage your own psychology as a people leader.

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