Navigating the Complexity of Company Values

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Navigating the Complexity of Company Values

HR Heretics

Jan 30, 2025

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Kelli and Nolan examine the art of building authentic company values. Through real-world experiences, they reveal the methodical process of transforming abstract principles into tangible organizational behavior that drives meaningful cultural change.

*Email us your ‘Dear Heretics’ questions: hrheretics@turpentine.co

**For coaching and advising inquire at https://kellidragovich.com/

HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro
(00:13) Discussion on Company Values
(01:30) Importance of Leadership and Top Performer Alignment
(02:19) Company Core Values and Honesty
(02:43) Scaling Culture in Founder-Led Companies
(03:46) Making the Intangible Tangible
(04:23) Revealed vs. Stated Character
(04:40) The Benefit of Outsourcing the Process of Developing Company Values
(05:54) Company Values Are Always Evolving
(06:27) The Goldilocks Approach
(07:48) Sponsor: Metaview
(09:52) Quick Process to Rough Draft
(10:20) Doordash Example
(11:56) Pendo's Working Committee and Bottoms Up Approach
(13:19) The Importance of Timing
(14:25) Wrap

Discussion about this podcast

“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies

After a decade+ of “blitz-scaling” companies, HR, talent, and People leaders now face an uncertain economy that has already seen big booms and busts. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact?

Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners – Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors.

This show is for those who are ready to ditch conventional wisdom and figure out from first principles what works for their culture, business model, and industry, with the goal of building a resilient and enduring company. You’ll come away with real guidance for seeing around corners, building enduring companies, and carving out an impactful career – plus a newly-honed bullshit detector.

Topics frequently touched on in this season include: building high performing cultures, compensation negotiation, performance reviews, company design, equity, M&As, recruiting the best talent, and how to manage your own psychology as a people leader.

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