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Navigating the Real Power Structures at Your Company

In this episode of HR Heretics, Kelli and Nolan sit down with Andrew Bartlow, a multi time VP of HR and co-founder of People Leader Accelerator. Andrew shares his extensive career from startups to Fortune 100 companies, the distinct challenges at each company stage across VC-backed startups and public companies, and the danger of being relegated to your HR island.

*Email us your questions or topics for Kelli & Nolan: hrheretics@turpentine.co

HR Heretics is a podcast from Turpentine.


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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(01:06) Andrew's career journey

(02:49) Differences between company types

(06:57) Power structures and company culture

(12:26) Talent assessment in private equity

(17:47) Sponsors: Metaview | Workvivo

(20:39) Private equity misconceptions

(28:20) Sponsors: Attio | Warp

(30:11) Changing reputation of private equity

(33:11) CEO and Chief People Officer relationship

(37:07) Assessing CEO's expectations

(39:00) Concept of HR island

(41:34) Engagement metrics: A critical view

(44:58) Challenges in HR leadership

(46:13) Engagement surveys: Pros and cons

(54:56) Exec comp debate

(01:00:51) Wrap

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“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies
After a decade+ of “blitz-scaling” companies, HR, talent, and People leaders now face an uncertain economy that has already seen big booms and busts. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact?    
Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners – Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors.
This show is for those who are ready to ditch conventional wisdom and figure out from first principles what works for their culture, business model, and industry, with the goal of building a resilient and enduring company. You’ll come away with real guidance for seeing around corners, building enduring companies, and carving out an impactful career – plus a newly-honed bullshit detector.
Topics frequently touched on in this season include: building high performing cultures, compensation negotiation, performance reviews, company design, equity, M&As, recruiting the best talent, and how to manage your own psychology as a people leader.