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Didier Elzinga, Culture Amp's CEO, drops bombshell insights about why most leaders get growth wrong, reveals shocking data about manager vs. leader impact, and explains why treating feedback like an all-you-can-eat menu is destroying companies.

Didier sits down with Kelli Dragovich and Nolan Church for a conversation about company culture, data, and mapping the world of work on two axes—trust versus mission.

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KEEP UP WITH DIDIER, NOLAN, + KELLI ON LINKEDIN

Didier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/didierelzinga

Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/

Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/

TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(02:50) From Harry Potter to CultureAmp CEO

(04:51) CultureAmp in the Film Industry & Anonymous Feedback

(08:40) Culture-First Companies & the Importance of Resilience

(13:24) Current Trends in Employee Engagement & Expectations

(15:12) Sponsor: Metaview

(16:24) The Future of Employer-Employee Relationships

(19:20) Enduring Truths in Culture & Growth

(21:13) Growth, Ambiguity, and Leadership

(23:54) Data-Driven Insights & Addressing Gender Gaps

(27:20) The Director to VP Transition & Hard Lessons

(31:45) Influencing Change & the Power of Data

(33:55) The Value & Limitations of Engagement Surveys

(37:45) Defining Strategy & the Feedback "Workout"

(39:01) CultureAmp's Non-Negotiables & Growth

(43:07) The Power of Storytelling & Authenticity

(46:32) Wrap

HR Heretics Substack
“HR Heretics” | How CPOs, CHROs, Founders, and Boards Build High Performing Companies
After a decade+ of “blitz-scaling” companies, HR, talent, and People leaders now face an uncertain economy that has already seen big booms and busts. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact?    
Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners – Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors.
This show is for those who are ready to ditch conventional wisdom and figure out from first principles what works for their culture, business model, and industry, with the goal of building a resilient and enduring company. You’ll come away with real guidance for seeing around corners, building enduring companies, and carving out an impactful career – plus a newly-honed bullshit detector.
Topics frequently touched on in this season include: building high performing cultures, compensation negotiation, performance reviews, company design, equity, M&As, recruiting the best talent, and how to manage your own psychology as a people leader.