Nolan and Kelli talk about AI's role in hiring processes, sparked by Anthropic's policy against using AI in job applications. They explore the tension between AI as a valuable tool and its potential for interview deception, ultimately advocating for a more integrated approach where candidates openly demonstrate their AI usage skills rather than attempting to restrict or hide it.
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KEEP UP WITH NOLAN + KELLI ON LINKEDIN
Nolan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nolan-church/
Kelli: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellidragovich/
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RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS PODCAST:
Gizmodo Article: “Anthropic Wants You to Use AI—Just Not to Apply for Its Jobs”
https://gizmodo.com/anthropic-wants-you-to-use-ai-just-not-to-apply-for-its-jobs-2000558490
Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/
Final Round AI: https://www.finalroundai.com/
Sora: https://openai.com/sora/
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(01:26) Initial Reactions and Perspectives to Anthropic’s Policy
(02:23) AI as a Tool vs. Replacement for Human Skills
(03:36) AI-Powered Interview Cheating.
(04:11) Practical AI Usage Throughout the Application Process
(06:21) Sponsor: Metaview
(08:15) Authenticity vs. AI Assistance
(10:09) Polarities and Gradients of AI Usage
(11:16) The Problem of Cheating and the "Open Book" Interview Approach
(12:30) Using AI During In-Person Interviews
(13:33) Adapting to AI in Hiring and Education
(14:18) Audience Engagement and Future Solutions
(15:03) Wrap
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